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To Jeff Fritz,
Regarding your new system, I would try a totally different approach. The Brodmann Acoustics VC 7s, JB 175s, and JB 205s are very special speakers, mostly excelling in jazz and classical music (but not just). They should fill up a large room with sound very easily. I live with a pair of VC 7s myself and could not be happier. I stopped listening to mids and highs and just listen to music. Their approach is different from conventional speakers and, in fact, Brodmann has not changed their design for many years.
Anyway, it is very interesting reading about your journey. Sometimes during the quest to build the killer system we forget about the main objective of the hobby -- music -- and lose the fun somewhere during the process.
To Jeff Fritz,
Congrats on your adventure! I think it’s great someone who knows what is possible on the bleeding edge is willing to jump into the audio food chain where most of us actually live. I find more satisfaction when trying to achieve something great on a budget -- it requires much more from you than simply having a large pile of $$$ and writing the check. That applies to audio or wine or myriad other hobbies.
One suggestion -- listen to the Chord Hugo 2. Shocking how good it can be as the center of a home system for less than $2500. By far the best sanely priced digital I’ve heard -- so I’ve two on order. From a value perspective, the $500 Chord Mojo is even more impressive and still very good in absolute terms. Rob Watts has managed to crack the digital nut using FPGAs at a very cost effective price point.
Looking forward to reading about your audio journey.
To Jeff Fritz,
I’ve been keeping up on your new articles about changing your system. Also, I’ve been reading the What’s Best thread (mostly, I skip some replies). First I think you’ve created a really fun stir in the audio world with this. I love that you’ve quoted some people from the forum.
Now I know you haven’t posted all your thoughts, but I have to chime in at least one interesting one that maybe hasn’t hit your plate. Have you considered working on designing your own new stereo? That is a project that would be very fun. It would take time, and you would have to love the end result. Now I don’t mean that you become an electronics designer and a speaker designer. What I mean is working with someone that wants to do a joint project. That would be very new and fresh.
As much as Folsom would love to be doing that, we don’t suspect you’d specifically want to engage with such a small and new company. But if you did do this approach we would be watching intently because it could be a great project in the future for us to do with someone. It’s new, it’s bold, and without a notable figure it won’t become a “thing,” but hey, it could be a pretty darn special event. It could lead to a lot of things in the future.
Any way, I will continue to keep up on what you decide. I check SoundStage! Ultra regularly as I find the length and read to be a pleasurable dose of what I can enjoy without scrolling to try and find something I care about.
To Jeff Fritz,
I have a strong inkling that you might just fall in love with the Dynaudio Contour 60s.
I heard a pair recently at some length -- alternating between the Gryphon Diablo 300 and Goldmund Telos 590 NextGen integrateds as partnering amps -- and it was very plain to hear that you no longer require (if indeed you ever really did) multiple boxes and a jungle of cables to achieve world-class sound. For me, all three models in the new Contour range represent a significant step forward for Dynaudio in terms of price/performance ratio.
With a view to your “downsizing” project, a top-class integrated amplifier is the obvious way to go, but I thought I might also mention the latest pre/power offerings from Mark Levinson. I recently had a chance to compare them to the D’Agostino gear and while I thought both were superb, I finally leaned slightly in favor of the Levinson No.526 pre and No.534 stereo power amp. And the on-board DAC in the No.526 is sweet as a nut, too. Clincher is, though, they undercut the comparatively specc’ed D’Agostiono offerings by about 50% in terms of wallet damage.
Just my two cents’ worth. Have fun choosing.
To Jeff Fritz,
I want to begin by saying that you have been a breath of fresh air in a polluted arena of audio review! Even with the best of equipment and the best of high resolution, it is very difficult to hear the truth, and I don’t mean from the music. It’s a difficult thing to be true to oneself when the spoils are so enticing; I don’t trust one single reviewer, not one.
To qualify, I own one of those $300,000 systems, and when I find time to listen with a clear head, I enjoy it deeply. I love the way it sounds, I love way it looks, and there’s an appeal to the whole setup and tinker thing that seems to be innate in some men. However, I still get more sheer enjoyment cranking up the car stereo and screaming lyrics from the ’70s while driving 80mph!
So what’s the point of all this? I hear the truth when I read your columns. I have contributed a couple times, almost bought the Soulution amp/pre combo on your words, but, and this is my truth: I can’t find $155,000 in value in any single piece of audio equipment. Instead, I opted for the $70,000 EMM Labs monsters. There’s a lot of irony in all this, and false pride. Audio can become too personal, and then it’s a problem.
I’m no spring chicken, 57 in a couple of days. I have two young boys, three and five years old, Cole and Luca. They are my real truth, Jeff. I’d stand in front of a bus for them, I really would. They love the audio room. They can operate my whole rig: preamp first, click, then amps, click, then dual DACs, power supply for the transport, clock is always on. They know their way around the $25,000 in cabling, too. They can load CDs, operate the remotes, all with great caution. Fire up the music, then they start jumping around the room, doing tumble salts, spinning my chair around, taking turns running full bore from the stereo rack to a flying jump into my arms. Am I nervous? You bet. I sold my Ypsilons because the corners are dangerous. Jeff, sometimes for over an hour this goes on and I realize I haven’t heard any of the advantages the $300,000 buys me. But I have a great time with them, and I would never want to steal from them the impulse that only three- and five-year-olds have when they are in that room. Cole wants a guitar now, the music is in our soul.
I get way more enjoyment from those two young boys than anything else in my life. Doesn’t mean I don’t still love audio; I still do, and always will. Truth is, I always thought the super system would bring me super satisfaction. Sometimes it does, but I wouldn’t do it again. I get as much, if not more, out of my simple, much less expensive system in the living room; surely not as “real” but every bit as enjoyable, and I never catch myself disappointed when listening to that system.
To conclude, Jeff, there’s a hell of a lot a luck in this hobby. There’s so much gear to choose from, the synergy, the room acoustics. The media mostly sucks and it’s a crapshoot. But the single biggest obstacle is zoning out the pollution from all the hype and bullshit from magazines, blogs, forums, and tainted reviewers. You nailed it, like you mostly do, in my opinion.
I’ve been listening for a better pair of speakers, but the truth is I’ll never be in a position to hear them in my audio room, so that’s a lot of risk for a disappointing conclusion. So, [Revel Ultima2] Salon2s it is for a while, until I know for sure. You know, if I could ask you straight up your thoughts on speakers, I would probably lean in that direction. That’s a lot of power from a source I’ve never broken bread with, but trust should be the most important cornerstone in the foundation of a reviewer. Jeff, we would get along good; I read a lot of me in your words, and we seem to be leaning in the same direction.
To Jeff Fritz,
I will try and keep this brief, but I just had to write my first message to a SoundStage! audio reviewer: as someone who has been at this hobby a long time (my first good stereo with LS3/5As was about 35 years ago); as someone who once had a 2500-square-foot one-bedroom condo and an active system that featured around 40 vacuum tubes; and as someone who now has small children (2, 3, and 8) at a point later in my life than most do.
Yours is the most timely, most insightful, and I must say inspiring article having to do with audio I have ever read. I look forward to the privilege of reading the chronicle of your journey to your new system. Kudos, bravo, and any other words that are appropriate.
Michael D. Brown
To Jeff Fritz,
That article is the best I’ve read from a reviewer [“Jeff’s Getting a New Stereo System: Part One”]. Our market and industry has indeed changed. It has entered the world of luxury products, which AVShowrooms delightfully covers. I was at this turning point some time ago and discovered the joys of vintage audio.
I still own several pairs of Bozaks and many vintage amps. The total retail for a great system is less than $10,000. Dan D’Agostino heard one of these systems at my home seven years ago and offered to buy my Bozaks on the spot!
Keep up the great writing!
To Jeff Fritz,
I just read your recent article on SoundStage! Ultra about you getting a new stereo system [“Jeff’s Getting a New Stereo System: Part One”]. Great piece of writing and so spot-on -- compliments for that one! It resonates with me. And I’m looking forward to Part Two of your new endeavor. So Hut ab Herr Fritz!
To Jeff Fritz,
Another great thought piece from you [“Jeff’s Getting a New Stereo System: Part One”]. We can only imagine the wonderful times and great listening sessions you must have enjoyed through the years with the access you have had to truly high-end stereo gear. The gear you have ended up with in your listening room is truly the subject of envy (without malice) to a great section of the audio-loving public and having this era of your listening life change must be tearing at your being.
But having this change can truly be a revelation for you and your readers in the fact that you are now building a system and trying to approach the level of performance you know exists. A great journey awaits you and your readers, Mr. Fritz, and the envy is still ours. I live in Australia and have just discovered SoundStage! Oz, although I’ll keep reading your pieces on Ultra. Remember it’s only about the music, so enjoy.
To Jeff Fritz,
It is always a pleasure to read your reviews and your opinion columns. I noticed recently that you have been going through what I would gently call a midlife audio crisis ["Jeff’s Getting a New Stereo System: Part One"], partly caused by your family responsibilities; there’s nothing like family to bring perspective in life!
As usual, you are raising excellent questions and challenging some of the notions and prejudices that have plagued the high-end audio community for years. This is a good thing and I think that most audio writers should go through this phase because, as you pointed out, there is a lot of BS out there! Spewed by manufacturers, distributors, retailers, and most sadly the audiophile community. I remember before buying my Simaudio Moon 600i amplifier, reading a forum where a reader found that The Abso!ute Sound’s review of the component was too effusive for an “$8000” integrated amp. Yup, $8000 is obviously chump change for some people and there is no way such a “cheap” amp can sound that good.
Your editorials on prices and continuous improvements are bang-on! I understand that it may be frustrating to feel that your latest purchase may be surpassed by the latest, shiniest version a year or two after your acquisition. It’s like computers and cars: there will always be something better. But in audio, is it always something much better? I don’t think so. I had the opportunity to ask this question to two respected manufacturers (for my CD player and speakers) at shows and they were honest in confirming that the newer models that replaced my gear only brought slight improvements and that the upgrade was not worth it. In my experience, a significant jump within the same product line is likely to bring improvements (my ears can attest), but with the laws of diminishing returns in full force in high-end audio (e.g., 30% improvement for 200% increase in cost), thanks but no thanks. I also think that in many cases audiophiles confuse “sounding different” with “sounding better,” especially when you compare products from different manufacturers. This I think is due to the different technology implementation philosophies and voicing of components.
Regarding the fixation on ultra-expensive gear, a manufacturer told me more or less the same thing you mentioned: a fancy audio store in New York told that company that he had trouble selling their products because consumers found they were not expensive enough. Well, enough said indeed!!
Five years ago I reached the stage where I became very satisfied with my gear and home setup. I am fortunate to have a dedicated listening room built with soundproofing, acoustic treatment, and a dedicated power line; I think this has provided the biggest sonic upgrade over the years. Yes, I could upgrade the digital front end, especially the streamer, but for my needs it serves me well. My next upgrade will be a new power conditioner and I will go for a reasonably priced ($1000-$2000) unit probably from Torus, a Canadian company that has been in business for years and that also makes components for Bryston. As a Canadian, nothing wrong in encouraging the local industry, eh!? There you go, my patriotic bit for our 150th anniversary celebrations.
Sorry for the long letter, keep up the good work. Happy 4th of July!!
I love the comment about the midlife crisis! Except, instead of buying the Porsche, I’m selling it. Perhaps I should have titled my opinion “Jeff Finally Grows Up.” . . . Jeff Fritz
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